Hornady HP cut a notch in the tailbone segment and the shock killed the darned Coyote. It is a great powder for cartridges from the .17 Remington Fireball to the .22-250 Remington. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. The .223 is inexpensive, easy to use well, low recoiling, and often very accurate even with military ball-type ammunition. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. Certainly, it was the most like the weather in Eugene, wait a while and it will change.) I'm burning Tac and 25 gr VMAX in my old 17 Rem and it really shoots well. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. But do you know how to properly use them? AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. human error as possible, the rifles were fired from the range's heavy The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. They are also very safe to shoot since the bullets do not exit the carcase and ricochets are non-existent just right for around the farm. CCI BR-4. I use IMR-3031 with a Hornady 25grHP bullet. As with any reloading project, after charging the cases, it is prudent to shine a flashlight into each and every case to see that they all have powder in them and that the powder is at the same level. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 2-Pack Universal Magazine IWB Concealed Carry Holster, Single Double Stack Mags Pouch for Glock 17 26 43 Sig 1911 S&W M&P 9mm. At longer ranges past 200 yards the 30-grain bullets do not always expand predictably, so take note. Learn more here: http://bit.ly/1G7xXag. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. Now we are getting somewhere and all the pressure signs are good. The 220-grain version is a great choice for heavier gameat modest ranges, of course. Additionally, ammunition for the .17 HMR is often somewhat cheaper, too; for instance, MidwayUSA lists loads priced from $10.99 to $14.99 per fifty-round package, with the leadless options comprising the . 17 Remington 20 Caliber: 20 Vartag 20 Vartag Turbo 22 Rim Fire: Testing The Effects Of The Hoen 4000 Plus Barrel Tuner On .22 Rimfire Accuracy Walther KK200 With Different Ammo At 50 and 100 Yards 22 Rim Fire Ammo Test (See the article Compared: .17 HMR Varmint Ammunition for more details about .17 HMR ammo.). These were with 25gr Hornady hp's seated .005" off . I shot LT-32 in two bolt-action .223 Remingtons and LT-30 and LT-32 in a CZ bolt-action 7.62x39. The overall average for the Model 336 was 0.92 inch; it was 1.07 inches for the Outfitter. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. The trim die squeezes the neck down to .17 caliber, and its hardened surface allows squaring up the mouth of the case with a fine-tooth file. Aug 29, 2009 Was at the gun show this am, looking for some h 4350 powder. CCI A17 load was chronographed using a Savage A17 test rifle with a 22" Following is a brief description of each of the five 26. Next was the .32 Winchester Special in 1902. Incidentally, in a Remember: Powder charges below those listed in loading manuals are not recommended. Does anyone know how much smaller the volume is on this brass vs Rem brass? Though, as with all the .17 bullets, if you push them too fast, too soon, the high rotational spin in flight can cause the bullet to disintegrate before it reaches the target. 2. Our .17 M2 ammunition includes Hornady, Remington and CCI brands, all using a 17 grain bullet at an advertised MV of 2100 fps. .17 rimfire rifles are normally tested with a good quality telescopic sight set at a magnification of nine power or higher. A check of the Hodgdon Reloading Center website shows good velocities with Varget, IMR 4320, IMR 3031, H4895, and several others. Accurate 2460 shot 20- and 25-grain bullets a good 250 fps faster than other powders loaded in the .17 Fireball, and with great accuracy. IMR 4064 is a medium-range burn speed powder and is one of the most versatile propellant in the IMR line, used for 223 Remington, 22-250 Remington, 220 Swift, 6mm Remington, 243 Winchester Super Short Magnum, 308 Winchester, 338 Winchester Magnum, and the list goes on and on. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. The CZ 7.62x39 grouped three Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets in .69 inch with LT-32 and into 1.05 inches shooting LT-30. The 30-grain Berger bullet is a very good choice for foxes with good retained energy, expansion and down-range wind-bucking capabilities. The list of bullets suitable for the .35 Rem. Power Pro 2000MR, IMR 4064, VV N135, TAC, and X-Terminator showed promise with good groups and low C.O.V.s. Then you seem to have a .244, not a 6mm Remington. barrel, the rifle for which this load was specifically designed. The distances at which the bullets still have 1,000 ft-lbs of retained energy is 265 yards for the FTX and 175 yards for the roundnose. 71 fps; average = 2775 fps. A 24-grain payload of RL15 shot the 20-grain V-Max out at 4,040fps on a cold day and 4,120fps on a hot one, with 25 grain absolute max grounding out at 4,200fps fast enough for anyone. Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. After that, if you are still not getting Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). Formed by necking down Remingtons .221 Fireball case and increasing shoulder angle to 30 degrees, OBrien claimed a velocity of 3,700 fps for a 25-grain bullet. For decades, I burned every powder imaginable in the .35 Whelen with hopes of firing 250- grain bullets at 2,400 fps. Powder and charge in grains: 70.7 grains of H1000 for 168s, 69.0 grains with 180s. 70 and a sako vixen is: Rem case , cci bencrest pr., 21.2 gr. 7,024. He called it the .17 Pee Wee and built a dramatically scaled-down 1917 Enfield action specifically for it. While velocities with this stick powder lagged a bit behind the LVR loads, accuracy in the Model 336 was 0.67 inch with the Speer 180-grain SPFN and 0.83 inch with the Hornady 200-grain FTX. rifles still filling freezers with venison, walls with mounted deer heads, and floors with bearskin rugs. are the Speer 180- and 220-grain softpoint flatnose (SPFN). The powder shot 139-grain bullets a touch over 3,300 fps from a 7mm Remington Magnum. I later bought an OBrien rifle in .17 Mach IV, and after shooting it for about 10 years, I sold it to a collector. and similar-sized cases is good ol H4895. These bullets fired slightly at a velocity above 1,600 fps are pretty much at full-power from the Marlins 18.5-inch barrel stiff recoil verified it. I fired 21 handloads in the Model 336 and 10 loads in the Outfitter. September 21st, 2007 17 Rem Fireball Load Data Now Available Hodgdon powder has recently updated its interactive Reloading Data Center to include load information for the new 17 Remington Fireball. can also be quite accurate. average velocities than called for by the factory specifications. U.S.-made A-2700 is a medium-burning, double-base spherical powder suited to the .22-250 Remington, .220 Swift and .243 Winchester. security jobs paying $30 an hour; most accurate 17 remington load By nearly every metric on the market, the 6.5 PRC is now the trendiest, best-selling precision hunting cartridge availableand for very good reason. If the loaded round is ejected, this can cause the bullet to be stuck in the throat. If the rifles are compared based on the average group size achieved with their favored brand of ammo the results are as follows. from that 120 gr. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? All this gives the FTX a higher ballistic coefficient of .300 versus .195 for a roundnose bullet of the same weight. I once shot a nice 8-point whitetail buck at about 40 yards with the 220-grain SPFN, and it was a dramatic deer-drop. For smaller deer it should be literally a bomb. All Rights Reserved. Extreme velocity spread was 12 fps. Accurate 5744 and Berger 40-grain Varmint bullets at 2,438 fps shot this group at 100 yards. Jun 13, 2012. My personal-for-my- Caspiangun-only most accurate load came from them pesky Rainier 200g PHPs that I couldn't get to run right until I loaded them over a wee bit (3.8g) of Bullseye. Beyond that distance, the Swift was the clear winner at bucking wind and dropping whistle pigs in mid-munch. Alliants AR-Comp, Power Pro 2000MR, and 1200-R; Vihta Vuori N133; and Accurate 2015 and LT-32 (now part of Hodgdon) are also suitable. ft. lbs. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. If I dropped the charge accuracy went in the dumps. exceeded its catalog MV by 108 fps and the CCI A17 load exceeded its The one I have now is a SAKO A1. AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. As for propellants, the hands-down choice with all bullets is LVR from Hodgdon, so lets look at the LVR loads. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. My 17 won't shoot the 20 gr VMAX and the 25 seems to give better air time. Test handloads for the .35 Remington were assembled with Hornady dies and shellholder No. Both bullets have been pretty accurate with a little load work up. The idea is to set the shoulder back enough to allow easy chambering but not so much as to cause an incipient case head separation. Of course, varmint hunting is an outdoor It offered longer barrel life, could be loaded to different velocity levels while retaining accuracy for increased versatility, longer case life, and it nearly duplicated the Swift's muzzle velocity. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Similar threads 17 fireball and reloader 10 bobcat93 Apr 12, 2016 Reloading Forum (All Calibers) Mag. Reloaders should be careful not to mix or switch case brands with a chosen load. went on to be chambered in Remington Model 14 and 141 pump actions, the Model 81 semiautomatic, and the Model 30 bolt action. It's interesting to see actual velocity figures for the average group size between 1.125 MOA and 1.531 MOA across all five I picked up a rifle that I've been wanting for a long time: a 700 Classic in 17 Remington. Bought 100 pieces of Norma brass to load with. Try 25 or 50 yards. That load will print right at 2.25" at 100 yards with me in the Creedmore position. Although I enjoy reloading, I would rather spend time hunting. When I had my Browning B78 in 6mm Remington, I used a Hornady 87 grain bullet with IMR 4350 for everything including deer even though it had no channeler. This is based on instrumental This medium-burning, double-base spherical powder works best in the .223 Remington shooting 55-grain and heavier bullets. Oleman He was a college professor, a gifted machinist, a writer, a barrel maker, a bullet maker, a builder of rifles and an avid experimenter. All RifleShooter subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. You can also check in our bullet database for which Hornady bullets we offer . 136 ft. lbs. 10 MPH crosswind this bullet will drift 3.3" laterally at 100 yards and