Its very annoying and I ended up having to turn cockpit warnings volume to zero in the MSFS settings). For FSX, this is a real quantum leap and the system is perfect for the PMDG 737 NGX. I dont think much of the superlatives that are so commonly used today. Check if the packs are turned on. All references in the article lead to the original articles in German. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. Our reviewers Oskar Wagner, Dr. Stefan Benzinger und Holger Kistermann have taken a closer look at the Boeing 737-800 / -900. You cant improve on perfect syntactically maybe, but not semantically. You will find the signature editor on the ACCOUNT tab, about half way down the page. With this present product, however, the shadows are very few and far between. 3 0 obj Most simmers aren't messing with that switch, I would guess. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. We do so because we feel that forums in which users must engage one another personally are generally warmer, more collegial and friendly. Great review, a pleasure to read. Doubt PMDG modeled this. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. You can keep APU BLEED ON until 17,000ft to be usable but you do need BOTH PACKS ON AUTO and BLEED PACKS AIR ON AUTO. If this is your first visit, be sure to You can familiarize yourself with all of the complexity of correct system operation to a very large degree if you put in the necessary effort. . By clicking Sign up, you agree to receive marketing emails from Insider That horn is the same as the takeoff config warning. What is your take on the sound, Stefan? I was landing at a high elevation airport (10,900 feet) and the cabin altitude warning came on. In this situation, the thrust should drop away almost immediately. I really took the system to its extremes here. Dr. Stefan Benzinger is a physician in Dachau and has been a member of the simFlight review team for half a year. If we want to count all of the lateral and vertical flight guidance by the FMC with LNAV and VNAV as part of automatic flight, we have to begin noting the first imperfections. This means it is certainly worth your time to take a look at an up-to-date manual. Good things take time, as they say but has a good thing indeed come of this? The one question that remains is about the reviewers choice. The usability of the FMC on multi-monitor systems is bad to put it mildly. Applying for medicals to start PPL soon. In this respect, the NGX is a new benchmark by which many future developers as well as future alternatives to FSX as a platform will be measured. The concept is explained extensively in the documentation and has even been improved over previous products (MD-11, Jetstream). 1 0 obj In my view, PMDG has made clear advances here. Please be courteous, English is not my primary language. To guarantee some ahhhs and ohhhs from the FSX community, PMDG has collaborated closely with Boeing. The systems simulation adds substantially to the hours of enjoyable flying. We had already presented it on simFlight.de, but we would rather mention it again in case someone hasnt seen it yet. Almost makes me want to run out and make the purchase, but my i5 and 3gb ram and windows xp may not be able to keep up. A few months ago I treated myself to a new computer because I finally wanted to max out FSX and be prepared for products like the PMDG 737NG. #1 Tobble 11. From what i can remember L and R packs were set to auto, ISO valve auto, bleed 1 & 2 on and APU bleed off and no illuminations out of the ordinary. Here at the Benzinger home, it is customary that I build a Revell model kit for every new FS add-on I buy and in this case, the PMDG model clearly beats it! But it is only natural that the cooperation with Boeing which has been stressed time and again and the use of original plans and blueprints should also have its effects here, and not only on systems depth. Show a video/pictures of all the panels. Also make sure ALTN is set to AUTO not MAN. But lets get back to the core topic of complexity for a moment: Do I have to be an expert to fly the 737 NGX within the boundaries of the Normal Procedures? Nothing to do with the ALT horn going off Paul. Whereas only a few months ago there was talk in forums and magazines about of a crisis of flight simulation, new developments are now coming thick and fast in the shape of high-quality releases. Its available on the developers own store and Orbx Central for $28.95 and comes with the following features. My old computer, a first-generation quad core with 2.93 GHz (QX6800) should probably be able to handle the PMDG, too, but a mixture of complex sceneriesandthe 737 NGX would definitely be pushing it! Updated 737 options packages reflecting operational improvements and changes to the global 737 fleet. In the first few days after the release, there were also some slightly disappointed comments from time to time. Instead, it is an add-on for intermediate or even (very) experienced desk pilots. Did we ever figure out what caused the dual bleed trip? With winglets or without. We do so because we feel that forums in which users must engage one another personally are generally warmer, more collegial and friendly. No attacking of other commenters (including insulting, threatening, trolling, baiting, flaming), 2. You can probably tell that many of these questions will not interest most virtual Boeing captains, who follow the motto: Can I use this to recreate my last summer holiday flight or not? But those who have knowledge of the subject matter and know what the different configuration options mean will find great satisfaction in them. I went to my doors page on the fmc and found that cargo hatch was left open and was unable to close it in the air. Also same horn that doomed a helios airways flight one time! PMDGs product philosophy aims not only to deliver a realistic airliner implementation but also to offer corresponding accessories. The only other thing I see is that you have the flight level pressure set to FL250 and you are at FL260. Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. Virtual cockpit model, with ultra high detail textures, 3D rendering and reflective properties. Just two questions: what do T/C and T/D mean in the plan map? Stefan: Youre completely right. Oskar Wagner was a Captain with a large Swiss airline for many years, flying a large variety of types, and he also worked as a Fokker company test pilot flying new aircraft in preparation for delivery. If there is sufficient customer demand, the ER variants of the -700 and -900 may follow, but a final decision on this has not been taken. My solution to this has been the VRInsight MCP combo on one hand and a touch screen on the other. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. An important indicator is always the transition to single-engine flight. Edit: page 31 of the introduction PDF I turned off the autopilot, but I cant silence the alarm. Any modern flight guidance system can handle it though only of course if the initial situation is correct. Exterior values: Model, performance, and sound, First impressions count, as they say. On the one hand, the specific sound system has a strong influence. Holger: Are there systems that are particularly innovative or that deserve particular attention? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. And this is something I dont really understand, because if you do have a little systems knowledge, you can quickly prepare the airplane for flight, and you will definitely have a more profound experience. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Thursday warned of a risk that pilots and other crew members could lose consciousness if the cabin altitude switches Precision Manuals Development Group (PMDG) has followed suit and recently released their interpretation of the Boeing 737 NG. If this is your first visit, be sure to And set the local altimeter coming down through the translation level. What is also great is that PMDG attaches equal importance to the visual aspect of the flight experience. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. After starting engines set the top three switches to auto. Information Developer: Precision Manuals Development Group, PMDG Distributor: PMDG Home page:http://www.precisionmanuals.com/ Price: 69,99 US $, available through PMDG, Authors: Oskar Oski Wagner Dr. Stefan Benzinger Holger Kistermann. Boeing had said earlier that the reported issues with the switches didn't pose a safety concern. As a longtime model maker I can answer this with a clear and I admit slightly surprised yes. For my taste, the NGX feels very good. And this is why PMDG recommend a 64-bit system in their requirements. He is now our man for the fine details, and the focus of his assessment will lie on visuals, haptics and sound. The directive includes the 737 Max. To me, the PMDG is a perfect add-on but in view of the great add-ons that have appeared in the last three months alone, you have to be really careful not to overuse the superlative. Holger, on the other hand, has already been unlucky several times. Even more so if it takes place at your PC at home with a system that may have cost 1.700,- in a generous case and can only deliver a corresponding performance. Another example: The elevators have trim tabs with their own animations at extreme deflections, they move in opposite directions. But I think if you press trip reset on the air con panel it should extinguish Ryzen 9 5900X, RX 6900XT, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k. I, too, was affected by this on several online test flights. No requests for links to similar sites like SimPlaza, 8. It seems like this was achieved some other way All times are GMT. In the first few days after the release, there were also some slightly disappointed comments from time to time. Join the flight experience and to troubleshoot for CTDs OOM Crash Free operation of FSX a.s.o. There is always something that hums, buzzes or beeps. Free customer support both at our customer forum and directly from our support team if necessary. I dont know. Even in critical situations I can make all necessary inputs using my mouse hand without having to let go of the yoke, for instance to open a panel (I have a Saitek yoke/throttle unit and rudder pedals). I did not find any function that displayed any obvious errors. If not, we will of course need to divert to the takeoff alternate. NOW WATCH: Why in-flight WiFi is so slow and expensive, Amazon's Prime Air drone delivery team has had higher turnover than the rest of the company as launch delays and internal tensions roil the division. It really is a joy to work with. Holger: When the BAe Jetstream was released, Robert Randazzo, the head of PMDG, wrote that there would be no more add-ons with 2D panels. But that usually takes a bit of effort, and many simmers still shy away from that. I have good frame rates (20+ for instance at Mega-Airport Zrich) when in the VC and even better frame rates (30+) with the 2D panels. The FAA requires every airplane with a pressurized cabin to include a system that warns the flight crew of cabin depressurization. The way Oski describes it you probably dont have much time for wild mouse acrobatics. It can also happen that you experience lockups if you tweak the routing too much in flight. You should welcome the existence of a 2D panel, I assume? And after all, the community is made up not only of pilots with virtual type ratings and hardcore simmers who plan and execute their flights with great dedication and knowledge, but also of many with an aesthetic inclination who frown at sludgy textures or mushy pixels and complain if exterior features such as pitot tubes or antennas are missing. Holger: I bought a new computer only three weeks ago. What use is the most detailed systems simulation if I have to click through three sub-panels in critical phases of flight with high workload? The aerodynamic purpose of this is not quite clear to me, but it is definitely beautiful to watch. We have already reviewed the product from iFly. Holger: In spite of everything, we find ourselves in a two-dimensional world: We sit at a computer screen and try to operate a simulated three-dimensional world using a mouse. By the way, practically all adjustments are made via the Flight Management Computer and take immediate effect without having to restart the simulator. By That this is also the case here is an absolutely positive indication for me that the aerodynamic fundamentals have been implemented realistically. Each Boeing plane has two pressure switches on board as a safeguard in case one fails, following a 2012 FAA mandate. Leaving recirculation fans OFF would not prevent pressurisation. To be sure, the NGX sets new standards in a few areas that all future aircraft will need to be measured by but it also does have its flaws, even if they only marginally impact the overall impression. A comparison would have to be made, though, across the whole range from the -600 to the -900. In principle, it does not take particular effort to fly. Ive had to wait a long time for this convenience the last payware product that offered this luxury was the Super 80 Pro by Coolsky/Flight1. My experience with real world autopilots has been consistently good and definitely on the level of simulator autopilots if I may make the comparison in the reverse direction for once. To me, the acoustic environment in the cockpit is tightly woven and convincing. <> Check if the packs are turned on. Hardcore simmers will surely be delighted to note that printed manuals are available covering everything from Crew Training to the Quick Reference Handbook. I dont know. The animations of the crew are great down to the smallest detail. You've got a bleed trip off annunciation. Whether this particular behaviour is seen specifically on the NG is something I dont know. Holger: Stefan, if you look at photos of a real 737 NG and compare them with the PMDG copy, you conclude that it comes pretty close to the original. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? Oski: I dont even have to go that far. Holger: Complexity is a term that is hard to define precisely in virtual aviation. And after all, the community is made up not only of pilots with virtual type ratings and hardcore simmers who plan and execute their flights with great dedication and knowledge, but also of many with an aesthetic inclination who frown at sludgy textures or mushy pixels and complain if exterior features such as pitot tubes or antennas are missing. After further investigation and analysis, however, the airplane manufacturer and the FAA concluded in May that "the failure rate of both switches is much higher than initially estimated, and therefore does pose a safety issue.". Thanks. In cases such as these, this also applies to vertical navigation, where a target speed sometimes does not behave the way it should. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? Stay tuned! There is no question: PMDG has set a milestone in the history of Microsoft Flight Simulator! 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